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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Darkside007 on January 22, 2018, 09:30:47 PM »

The darkest thing I ever read was Sinsub's The Collar. This is darker even the mind-control slave-making stories I've skimmed over. But it's brilliantly written and tells a compelling story. I originally thought it reflected some unhealthy impulses of the author (who I otherwise like), but come to find out the author is a woman whose fantasy here is that of the victim.


So I would discard judgments about the healthiness of the author's mind based on their writing. Now, if you want to talk about the relationship between Lexi and her socks, I think that is trending in a quasi-abusive direction, but we'll see how the story plays out (since we're giving TLS an anxiety attack now :P ). I'm more concerned with the animation going viral and the story turning into Enchanted Panties.
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Vestiphile on January 22, 2018, 09:07:32 PM »
Hey, all constructive points--all postable again. Totally not coming down on you. You even said "I know this just might be my thing", so I don't think your response was at all heavy-handed. We're just people talkin'.


To arrive at your conclusions means you're really digging into the story, and that's a good thing. I Just wanted to provide a couple counterpoint reasons someone might be so absolutely willing to go along with the unknowable (while selfishly justifying some of my own tropes, of course).
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Preposte on January 22, 2018, 08:40:27 PM »
Ugh, I shouldn't post complex thoughts from my phone.  I regret using the term "unhealthy", because yes, fiction is an outlet for this kind of thing and shouldn't be constrained by any laws except its own internal consistency.

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"you presented that description along with an acknowledgement that these stories might not be for you, but when it comes to control in the case of magic, we've gone way, way nastier on the site."

To be clear, I've seen plenty of nastier stuff here and elsewhere and my practice is to just move on.  I suppose I'm commenting here for the simple reason that this is interesting to me, and I have opinions on what would make it more appealing for me (which is all anyone can offer).  I probably should have couched my comment as a stranger's opinion shouldn't carry that much weight, but I have copy editing habits where brusqueness is usually a good thing.

Going back to the story:
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"we've established Lexi's relationship with the socks pretty solidly."

That's part of why I wrote at all.  The socks are constantly pushing her horizons, forcing more extreme (from her perspective) scenarios on her and winning over her obedience.  That is one dimension of a relationship.  My suggestion was to introduce a second dimension to the relationship before the reader starts assuming there isn't one (even if that second dimension isn't my cup of tea).  If TLS thinks that would distract from their goals in the story, then please ignore what I said, but I genuinely like the story, and this is my contribution to it.
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Vestiphile on January 22, 2018, 06:50:53 PM »
You know what, I'll play a little defense here.

It's fair to say we don't *know* how any human would react to the rules of reality being broken so hard. People snap and turn into unreasonable monsters IRL for much, much [ed: less] stressful things. Similarly, people with a head for heights see a 14" wide steel girder, and find an easy path through. People with acrophobia see death.

In the world of fiction, I'd say "consistency of attitude" weighs much more than "realism of attitude". In TLS' case, we've established Lexi's relationship with the socks pretty solidly. She's willing to go along with anything NOW because of all the great things they've already shown her. Maybe she accepted too fast for the usual person, but once we've established her as someone who's willing to trust her animated clothes, I'd say it stands to reason that it would have to take a big change of scenery/intensity for her to suddenly freak out at the situation or run scared.

The new girl could absolutely freak--but then there's also the factor of another human present that's treating it like it's normal.
That social context would--and does in real life 'when in Rome' situations--play into the mindframe of the newbie at some level.


"Unhealthy", though--is something else altogether. Now we're not really talking about good writing vs. bad writing. For lack of a better way of me putting it, it seems like we're waxing guilt over a fictional character or situation.

To be fair, you presented that description along with an acknowledgement that these stories might not be for you, but when it comes to control in the case of magic, we've gone way, way nastier on the site. Speaking for myself here, with my stories...NO POSSIBLE FUCKING ESCAPE is pretty much the point (Thank Cor for that), especially when it comes to some kind of supernatural influence. I mean, we deal a LOT with power, and often times here, that's about power beyond the normal human capacity of exercising power--sometimes with dominant entities that aren't really human.

That caution aside, I agree with your assessment of too quick an initial acceptance. I think that's symptomatic of a few authors (me totally included) when it comes to living clothing. Having said that--I stick with my "consistency weighs more than realistic" and "spectrum of reactions" points.

For Lexi or the socks to suddenly reach some kind of anxious epiphany NOW would be far more unnatural than almost *any* initial reaction to one's socks getting up and moving on their own.

Additionally, I agree that some people would find a self-animated object and run for the hills (less today than 100 years ago, though, I'm sure). But if we're making room for that possibility, we have to make room for the intensely curious and ballsy--those with a "head for heights weird."
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Preposte on January 22, 2018, 02:33:51 PM »
I know I'm not the target demo for these stories due to my own complex control issues, but I think the story getting a little unhealthy.  Trust is huge in this kind of relationship, and Lexi appears to trust her socks not to harm her, but as a reader, I don't know why.  As the writer, you know how far they would go, but she shouldn't know that.  If Lexi is just going with the flow and hoping, then eventually she's not going to seem like a real person, because people are too paranoid and anxious to exist like that.  If the socks don't reach out to prove their trustworthiness soon, Lexi needs to confront them (for good or ill), or I think.the character will start feeling like a prop.


That being said, I do enjoy this story more than I typically do similar stories, so please continue.
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Vestiphile on January 21, 2018, 11:18:56 PM »
I love the scene--it's super hot.
I see two mentions of "rubber hoses" that I don't really get the origin of, though. Maybe I need to go back and read former chapters.
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Off-Topic Board / Re: I'll be streeeeeeeeeamin' Sunday 6:30 PM
« Last post by Vestiphile on January 21, 2018, 05:30:01 PM »
6:30 EST until about Midnight.
I'm going to fix up Darkside's request from the Thursday stream, work on a Sergeant-level Patron's monthly Request, and continue the backlog. I will get all of this and more done!https://picarto.tv/Vestiphile
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General Discussion / Re: GIFs of our new video FX stuff
« Last post by Semtech on January 21, 2018, 12:52:42 PM »
Looks pretty amazing! You're getting pretty good with chroma keying. Keep at it and eventually you'll be able to add in some of the missing details in post like the inside of the socks and the lacing in front of the legs.
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Edit Hell / Re: A slave to socks Ch. 10 (I'm rusty. be gentle)
« Last post by Darkside007 on January 21, 2018, 09:42:40 AM »

Like I said...I'm rusty. Just got a working computer, haven't looked at this story since...trying to get back in to things.
Lexi’s eyes grew wide as she found herself being flung into the outfit’s midsection.

Which outfit?

Sure, she’s rather those nike socks foot deep in to her mouth, but beggars can’t be choosers.

She's not really a beggar here, is she? She just doesn't have a choice.

Assuming that the comment regarded them as well,

"the command included them" is clearer.

Only inches away however, they were stopped by the knee socks that animated them. “Not you."

This is an awkward description. "Red-striped socks" or just "Tasha" is much clearer



Hesitating on heeding out commands,

Either heeding or obeying, "heeding out" is not correct.


Tasha walked off, leaving the clothing to do with Lexi what they will, walking under the desks to reach the professor that was already feeling the affects of her own clothing betraying her.

This is too vague. What is happening?


Every so often, she caught sight of the girl she originally licked the knee high socks of

Off, also, she didn't lick the socks off?


noticing her face also went from fear to pure bless

Bliss


“How was that…” she said in a bewildered tone before deciding not even to complete her sentence. Partly due to being tired, but also due to the girl’s own clothing coming back toward her while the socks moved away. In but a few minutes, the other woman was dressed back up in her own clothing, though her own knee highs remained with Lexi, forcing the sneakers to slip on to bare feet. About to ask for socks back, Lexi quickly interrupted. “They are staying with me. Like I said, I think they enjoyed me licking them. I plan to do more...if Mistress will let me.”

Personal tic, but she should ask for her socks back and her socks should intimidate her into letting them go. It seems weird that Lexi is making this decision.

“You’d give yourself to them as well, if you could. I mean, hell, just a second ago, you were begging for your own socks back.”

Except she wasn't This is also the perfect chance for her socks to tease her, maybe threaten that if they go back with her, she's going to be forced into working out?

The former classmate just nodded a few times, and very slowly got to her feet, halfway expecting her clothing to take over again. It was a reassuring glance from Lexi that told her that they were inanimate again, and she very quickly made her way to the classroom door, opening it up to peer out before quickly disappearing out of it.

Why inanimate? Of course there shouldn't be runaway animation, but why not keep them up to make sure she behaves?

“So long as it doesn’t make us upset."

This is a "no".
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General Discussion / Re: GIFs of our new video FX stuff
« Last post by Vestiphile on January 21, 2018, 02:47:13 AM »

What a great dress.

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